I think they're winning

Rumsfeld's self-appointed panel on the prisoner abuse decides that even though Rumsfeld has shown near complete incompetence, it would be a boon to terrorists everywhere were he to resign. It's logic like that that will win the War on Terrorism (or, WOT).

On NPR this morning, Sen. John Warner (R. Vir) called Rumsfeld the best Secty of Defense. Ever.

If even remotely intellectually honest people don't take a modicum of control over the country soon the lies, malfeasance, and basic incompetence of the Bush admin. may never come to light. Or, at least, not until it's too late.